PDS_VERSION_ID = PDS3 RECORD_TYPE = STREAM OBJECT = TEXT PUBLICATION_DATE = 2007-07-31 NOTE = " E-mail and other messages concerning MGS Radio Science on or about 2003/174." END_OBJECT = TEXT END From aseel@airmail.fltops.jpl.nasa.gov Mon Jun 23 16:55:18 2003 Received: from airmail1.fltops.jpl.nasa.gov (airmail2.fltops.jpl.nasa.gov [137.228.96.27]) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5NCU7801760; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 05:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rsops2.fltops.jpl.nasa.gov (rsops2.fltops.jpl.nasa.gov [137.228.136.22]) by airmail1.fltops.jpl.nasa.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7A810903; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 05:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from aseel@localhost) by rsops2.fltops.jpl.nasa.gov (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id h5NCU1v19573; Mon, 23 Jun 2003 12:30:01 GMT Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 12:30:01 GMT From: aseel anabtawi Message-Id: <200306231230.h5NCU1v19573@rsops2.fltops.jpl.nasa.gov> To: aseel.anabtawi@jpl.nasa.gov, chinsan@magellan.stanford.edu, data@magellan.stanford.edu, joe@neptune.stanford.edu, kusza@magellan.stanford.edu, rsimpson@magellan.stanford.edu Content-Length: 456 DSS: 25 RSR: RSR2A Subchannel: 1 Orbit Number: 19176 Occultation Sense: i SOE: mm290c.01.tsoe Ground Mode: 1 Uplink Station: -- Sampling Rate: 2K Bit Resolution: 16 Begin Record: 2003/174-09:43:00 End Record: 2003/174-09:53:00 DSS: 25 RSR: RSR2A Subchannel: 1 Orbit Number: 19177 Occultation Sense: i SOE: mm290c.01.tsoe Ground Mode: 1 Uplink Station: -- Sampling Rate: 2K Bit Resolution: 16 Begin Record: 2003/174-11:41:00 End Record: 2003/174-11:51:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From aseel@airmail.fltops.jpl.nasa.gov Tue Jun 24 04:53:07 2003 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:20:01 GMT From: aseel anabtawi To: undisclosed-recipients: ; DSS: 43 RSR: RSR2A Subchannel: 1 Orbit Number: 19178 Occultation Sense: i SOE: mm290c.01.tsoe Ground Mode: 1 Uplink Station: -- Sampling Rate: 2K Bit Resolution: 16 Begin Record: 2003/174-13:39:00 End Record: 2003/174-13:49:00 DSS: 43 RSR: RSR2A Subchannel: 1 Orbit Number: 19179 Occultation Sense: i SOE: mm290c.01.tsoe Ground Mode: 1 Uplink Station: -- Sampling Rate: 2K Bit Resolution: 16 Begin Record: 2003/174-15:37:00 End Record: 2003/174-15:46:00 DSS: 43 RSR: RSR2A Subchannel: 1 Orbit Number: 19180 Occultation Sense: i SOE: mm290c.01.tsoe Ground Mode: 1 Uplink Station: -- Sampling Rate: 2K Bit Resolution: 16 Begin Record: 2003/174-17:34:00 End Record: 2003/174-17:44:00 DSS: 43 RSR: RSR2A Subchannel: 1 Orbit Number: 19181 Occultation Sense: i SOE: mm290c.01.tsoe Ground Mode: 1 Uplink Station: -- Sampling Rate: 2K Bit Resolution: 16 Begin Record: 2003/174-19:32:00 End Record: 2003/174-19:42:00 DSS: 43 RSR: RSR2A Subchannel: 1 Orbit Number: 19182 Occultation Sense: i SOE: mm290c.01.tsoe Ground Mode: 1 Uplink Station: -- Sampling Rate: 2K Bit Resolution: 16 Begin Record: 2003/174-21:30:00 End Record: 2003/174-21:39:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From aseel@godzilla.jpl.nasa.gov Tue Jun 24 04:53:24 2003 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:25:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Aseel Anabtawi To: len@nova.stanford.edu, hinson@rocc.stanford.edu, rsimpson@magellan.stanford.edu, joe@nova.stanford.edu, kusza@magellan.stanford.edu, chinsan@magellan.stanford.edu Cc: sami.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov Subject: Scheduling DSS-24 for MGS Hello, I spoke to the new MGS DSN Scheduler about the scheduling of DSS-24. The last time I discussed this with the schedulers, I was told that there were no plans to schedule DSS-24 for MGS. However, there was a DSS-24 pass scheduled on DOY 169 (6/18), and more are coming up on weeks 32 and 33. Back in December, Sal Abbate ran Allan Deviation and Phase Noise tests, and reported that the results did not meet the science requirements for long periods of recordings, and possibly also for short periods of recordings. Joe then compared data recorded simultaneously at DSS-25 and DSS-24, and his report is attached below. The DSN Scheduler told me that the current plans are to utilize DSS-24 for MGS. However, if DSS-24 is scheduled, it's most likely because no other antennas are available and it's down to either DSS-24 or no coverage at all. I told him that if that's the case, then we'd definitely prefer DSS-24 to no coverage. But he also said that if we have antenna preference, that we should let him know. Sal said that he can run more Phase Noise tests if needed, although he doesn't expect the results to be different since nothing changed at DSS-24 since December that would improve the results. The DSN Scheduler said that he can probably schedule some demo passes so that we can collect data over DSS-24 and another SPC-10 antenna simultaneously. Please advise on how to proceed. If no more testing is necessary, please let me know. Regards, Aseel ------------- Begin Forwarded Message ------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Twicken To: aseel@godzilla.jpl.nasa.gov (Aseel Anabtawi) cc: sami.asmar@jpl.nasa.gov (Sami Asmar), rsimpson@magellan.stanford.edu (Dick Simpson 723-3525), hinson@rocc.stanford.edu (Dave Hinson), len@nova.stanford.edu (len tyler), kusza@stanford.edu (Kerri Kusza) Subject: DSS 24/25 Comparison (2002/344) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 20:53:29 -0800 Hello Aseel- Three ingress occultations (16793i-16795i) were recorded simultaneously on 2002/344 at both DSS 24 and 25. I have processed each open-loop recording, and the results may be found in the tables below. The USO frequency extracted from the recordings at stations 24 and 25 agreed to within 1 mHz for each occultation (Table 1). The SNR for each occultation was better at DSS 25 than DSS 24, the difference ranging from approximately 0.7 to 2 dB (Table 2). The frequency stability at DSS 25 was better than DSS 24 at integration times less than or equal to 4 seconds (the short integration times are those most affected by SNR); at integration times greater than or equal to 8 seconds the stability at station 24 was generally (except in one case) comparable or better than that at 25 (Table 3). Joe ****************************************************************************** Table 1 Estimated USO Frequency (Hz); T = 4.096 sec Occ DSS 24 DSS 25 16793i 8423153056.473 8423153056.473 16794i 8423153056.454 8423153056.454 16795i 8423153056.457 8423153056.458 ****************************************************************************** Table 2 Nominal SNR (dB/Hz) Occ DSS 24 DSS 25 16793i 50.0 50.7 16794i 49.0 51.1 16795i 48.8 50.6 ****************************************************************************** Table 3 Allan deviation Occ 16793i: 2002/344 15:33:00-15:43:00 T, sec DSS 24 DSS 25 (23441533.RSR) (2344153D.RSR) 0.512 7.8722e-13 6.0291e-13 1.024 4.9167e-13 3.0321e-13 2.048 2.1525e-13 1.7368e-13 4.096 1.3759e-13 1.3329e-13 8.192 7.7307e-14 1.0318e-13 32.768 5.8806e-14 7.2344e-14 Occ 16794i: 2002/344 17:31:00-17:41:00 T, sec DSS 24 DSS 25 (23441731.RSR) (2344173B.RSR) 0.512 8.3576e-13 6.3754e-13 1.024 4.6497e-13 2.7653e-13 2.048 2.4717e-13 2.0637e-13 4.096 1.5262e-13 1.2419e-13 8.192 9.8904e-14 9.9287e-14 32.768 1.3624e-13 1.4035e-13 Occ 16795i: 2002/344 17:29:00-19:39:00 T, sec DSS 24 DSS 25 (23441929.RSR) (2344192J.RSR) 0.512 7.5185e-13 5.8786e-13 1.024 4.8157e-13 3.0283e-13 2.048 2.5191e-13 1.8497e-13 4.096 1.6588e-13 1.3272e-13 8.192 1.3773e-13 1.5168e-13 32.768 9.7354e-14 9.3677e-14 ****************************************************************************** ------------- End Forwarded Message ------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From aseel@airmail.fltops.jpl.nasa.gov Tue Jun 24 19:02:33 2003 Received: from airmail1.fltops.jpl.nasa.gov (airmail2.fltops.jpl.nasa.gov [137.228.96.27]) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5OIx6825517; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rsops2.fltops.jpl.nasa.gov (rsops2.fltops.jpl.nasa.gov [137.228.136.22]) by airmail1.fltops.jpl.nasa.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FDF1090B; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from aseel@localhost) by rsops2.fltops.jpl.nasa.gov (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id h5OIx1O21285; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 18:59:01 GMT Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 18:59:01 GMT From: aseel anabtawi Message-Id: <200306241859.h5OIx1O21285@rsops2.fltops.jpl.nasa.gov> Content-Type: text To: undisclosed-recipients:; Content-Length: 684 DSS: 34 RSR: RSR2B Subchannel: 1 Orbit Number: 19181 Occultation Sense: i SOE: mm290c.01.tsoe Ground Mode: 1 Uplink Station: -- Sampling Rate: 2K Bit Resolution: 16 Begin Record: 2003/174-19:32:00 End Record: 2003/174-19:42:00 DSS: 34 RSR: RSR2B Subchannel: 1 Orbit Number: 19182 Occultation Sense: i SOE: mm290c.01.tsoe Ground Mode: 1 Uplink Station: -- Sampling Rate: 2K Bit Resolution: 16 Begin Record: 2003/174-21:30:00 End Record: 2003/174-21:39:00 DSS: 34 RSR: RSR2B Subchannel: 1 Orbit Number: 19183 Occultation Sense: i SOE: mm290c.01.tsoe Ground Mode: 1 Uplink Station: -- Sampling Rate: 2K Bit Resolution: 16 Begin Record: 2003/174-23:27:00 End Record: 2003/174-23:37:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rsimpson@magellan.stanford.edu Tue Jun 24 19:02:48 2003 Received: (from rsimpson@localhost) by magellan.stanford.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h5OIv8A25461; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:57:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Dick Simpson 723-3525 Message-Id: <200306241857.h5OIv8A25461@magellan.stanford.edu> To: aseel.anabtawi@jpl.nasa.gov Subject: Re: 2003/172 at DSS-54 Cc: kusza@magellan.stanford.edu Content-Length: 645 >When the RSR cannot find the predicts that it's supposed to load, >it uses some old default X-band predicts. The reason you couldn't >query for this data is because the data are labeled s/c 99 (the data >get labeled with a s/c number based on the predicts). If you want >that data, you'll need to query using s/c 99. Sounds like a long shot (and a fair amount of extra work). Not only is the spacecraft number going to be wrong, but the predicts are for an unknown time in the past and are not likely to catch the signal. I vote for skipping over these queries and following up on loose ends with higher probability of payoff. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From aseel@godzilla.jpl.nasa.gov Tue Jun 24 19:14:26 2003 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:08:29 -0700 From: Aseel Anabtawi Reply-To: Aseel Anabtawi To: Dick Simpson 723-3525 , Kerri Kusza 3-3669 Subject: Re: MGS RST Rpt HEA3174A.TXT > Four occultations (19143i through 19146i) scheduled for DSS 34 were > apparently lost when the station took local control of the RSR. When the > RSR is under local control, the MGS scripts do not execute. Aseel Anabtawi > is investigating. I submitted a DR, but don't have a number yet. I also sent an email to a few station personnel telling them about the data loss and asking them not to use the RSR without checking with us first.